saw series are frightening.ı never watch ı don't think that ı can watch certainly he is not human he is a evil and killer and crazy...this is terrible...

True bitter_end but I think that is what the writer and director wanted you to see, something that we would hope could never exists in reality but he done it in a way that could, you could walk past that guy in a street and he'd just be a normal guy, scary

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I... can't... stand... Saw. Despite an extremely promising, original plot, it doesn't deliver. It is a calculated Blockbuster, with enough gore to keep a shallow teen audience happy (I am often ashamed that I am part of this age group), but without any cumulative impact or terror associated with it. Movies like these are obviously geared for profits first, quality filmmaking later.
For a real thriller, I recommend One Hour Photo, Munich, Jaws, Jurassic Park, Insomnia, Cape Fear (Martin Scorsese's remake; I have yet to see the original), Terminator 2 (rather graphic itself, but the catch being that the film's quality is the biggest concern), The Shining, and just about any Alfred Hitchcock film. Modern horror and thriller movies seem to rarely possess quality filmmaking; it's all about aiming for a target audience and getting the profits to roll in.
Rant over, safe to come out.

Ha well let's be fair, you have to give it to the guys who made it, there goal was to get people hooked and make money and they definitely done that A real gore film to keep people coming back to be scared again.

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Ozirock is right i agree with him.
To be frank, many movies are taken to get profits and make money through that.
Saw type of movies are rare, and will attract many people to such terrific one.

Saw is all gore, no intelligence. It's not worth the gore fest it puts the audience through.

Your right go_leafs_nation but some people really enjoy that kind of thing, the gore just for the sake of it, the feeling of cringing as you watch it or not being able to take your eye's off the screen, it is good for these things.

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Sadism sells. Movies like Saw and TV series like Dexter are some of the very rare arguments FOR movie censorship out there.

Thats true but the world is already oppressed enough, we should not have our freedom to watch what we like quashed, if I want to watch a mad man put bad people in an impossible situation just to see what will happen then I will.

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I am now going to state a further case against Saw. Sorry, ozirock, but I can't resist quoting your very words to kick this off:

"A real gore film to keep people coming back to be scared again."

I'm afraid that Saw just doesn't qualify as a film that scares. The perpetual sadistic killing, the gushing blood, etc. are there mainly for the gore. Gore is to horror movies what explosions are to action/thriller movies. I will now quote Alfred Hitchcock's "bomb theory" (which is, to be honest, correct, proven time and time again):

There is a distinct difference between "suspense" and "surprise," and yet many pictures continually confuse the two. I'll explain what I mean.
We are now having a very innocent little chat. Let's suppose that there is a bomb underneath this table between us. Nothing happens, and then all of a sudden, "Boom!" There is an explosion. The public is surprised, but prior to this surprise, it has seen an absolutely ordinary scene, of no special consequence. Now, let us take a suspense situation. The bomb is underneath the table and the public knows it, probably because they have seen the anarchist place it there. The public is aware the bomb is going to explode at one o'clock and there is a clock in the decor. The public can see that it is a quarter to one. In these conditions, the same innocuous conversation becomes fascinating because the public is participating in the scene. The audience is longing to warn the characters on the screen: "You shouldn't be talking about such trivial matters. There is a bomb beneath you and it is about to explode!"
In the first case we have given the public fifteen seconds of surprise at the moment of the explosion. In the second we have provided them with fifteen minutes of suspense. The conclusion is that whenever possible the public must be informed. Except when the surprise is a twist, that is, when the unexpected ending is, in itself, the highlight of the story.

Now, let's modify the Master's statement to apply to horror movies. Thrills are not delivered from the gruesome deaths (with which Saw is littered), but from anticipating the deaths. Saw has very limited anticipation, but unrestrained blood flow. That is why it fails as a horror movie. It's not scary or thrilling-- it's disgusting. It has a promising premise, but because it's targeted to gore-obsessed audiences, it focuses on the gore, not the thrills. By the end, the plot is not worth the gore-fest the movie puts us through.

For a true horror thriller, I highly recommend The Shining.

Your Honour, the prosecution rests its case.